I questioned him about Mormons being excluded from his definition of Christian.
I have a deep testimony of my Savior Jesus Christ and believe that “He is the only way, the truth, and the life.”
My total trust and dependence on my Savior is what draws me to The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ, but this book of scripture (I am always surprised how people will put the book down without ever reading it) and my other belief in a living Prophet as a mouthpiece for God on the earth, are the very things that exclude me.
I am shocked that while I am excluded, Methodists who allow homosexuality, Lutherans with women called to the Priesthood, Baptists who all have different interpretations of the Bible, and even Catholics who believe in a Pope are in.
Why, I asked?
“Because they are willing to come to my congregation and say that I am saved; if you would come to my congregation and say I know I am saved through Jesus Christ, then you would be in too.”
Well, I could do that.
No problem.
“Well, you would also have to denounce The Book of Mormon and your prophet.”
Oh, I see how this goes.
It should be of no surprise to me that mainstream America
would even entertain the idea of electing a Jack Mormon.
I think a lot of religious people have turned Jack, if you will.
They take what works for them and leave everything else behind.
I hate to be the one to break it to you all,
but God doesn’t work that way.
There is a scripture that says
“eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die.”
It’s not a commandment how we should live
but how we shouldn’t.
I am also a little hopeful in Americans
as Romney is way ahead of Huntsman in the polls.
Maybe it is also important to other people that
people have integrity?
The following video jokes about Hunstman and Romney.
Mockeries to my faith happen often. They started with the church’s inception. The founder Joseph Smith was martyred. Hundreds of the earliest Mormons were murdered in cold blood.
Of course I think it is a crying shame. I also think it goes with the territory. If one is to decide where God is solely by the amount of mockery His followers receive, I think you would be right to investigate my faith.
Once in a while though they get it right. Thank you to CNN for reporting with dignity.
Thank you also to Catholics for being nice.
Above Colbert talked about the I’m a Mormon campaign. In case you are interested here is my profile on Mormon.org.
Oh, and if you aren’t going to vote for someone because of their religious beliefs, then don’t vote for Romney because he deserves a non-vote more than Huntsman. Since Huntsman claims 10 religions.
Or vote for Huntsman for being the better man because he jumped in the race as a favor to Romney to allow Romney’s faithful dedication shine.
added a few hours after original post:
My brother Adam just messaged me congratulating me for hitting the maximum amount of sensitive subjects in one post. Why not get them over with all at once?
The definition of a jack Mormon has changed. It used to mean a non-Mormon supporter of the church. That was back in the beginning though.
Colbert is always funny. I like how he had to “fight” not falling into the church. He always cracks me up.
Anytime I read anti stuff, I have to laugh because of how ridiculous it all is. I am always amazed at how willing people are to bash us when they have absolutely no knowledge of what we believe.
Adam's congratulatory note is what linked me here. Loved this post. Well done, Alice! You are amazing at standing for truth. I admire you very much. Love your LDS profile too! Here is mine: http://mormon.org/me/3R9K/
I've lived in the south a long time now and most of the people here are good and kind Christian people. When I've answered questions or cleared up misconceptions about the church, they are often very Christlike and open minded even when they still don't agree. I've seen hearts soften simply by being a good friend and not being trigger happy. And seriously, the worst most militant anti-Mormons I've ever run into have ironically been in Utah, Salt Lake City/Sandy in fact, no where near the south.;) And you know, sometimes I laugh because we are kind of weird!
What about people who are not Mormons nor have any interest in your religion? How do they vote? Did you opt out of the last election over religion or *race*??! I appreciate people who have strong values, but these blog posts often border on bigotry.
I would gladly vote over any Christian politician (even the ones who call me not Christian) over Obama, and race has no consideration for me…sexual orientation, yes, not because I am a bigot, because if believing so makes me a bigot, it makes God a bigot too. If they are gay and say they are trying not be gay because they want to keep God's laws then they will have my vote double.
I agree with you Renee. A lot of great people in the South, including the ones who call me UnChristian. But I think someone like me who is pretty vocal about what I believe is in a position to receive more mockery than other Mormons who keep a low profile.
Because Jon Huntsman does not define his Mormonism according to the official Salt Lake City brand you shun him and call him names. Then you proceed to whine about persecution.
I won't be voting for Huntsman. Not because he is a flake in his own religion, but because I just don't think he has what it takes to lead the country in a direction I feel it needs to go. I didn't like him as governor either.
I do love your post. I love that you are gutsy enough to put it out there and that you have found the cowards named “Anonymous.” They are entertaining to me, anonymous, that is.
Just in case you didn't catch the satire I was kidding when I said that I only persecute people who don't believe like I do.
And, anonymous, thank you so much for your advice, I will try to be more wise. Heck, I am already trying. May not be succeeding according to you or my husband who says I was pretty harsh on Jon Huntsman.
And I am judgemental.
Thou shalt not judge Jack Mormons.
I will put it on my to-do list.
And my husband says that I used to be a Jack Mormon.
I say that's why he married me because he needed a little excitement in his life.
And your excitement gets stomped dead when you convert your Jack Mormon wife to your boring ways.
P.S. LG says his idea of excitement is not being called a perv or a freekazoid.
And you have officially lost another reader due to your extreme ignorance. I gave your blog a month or so because it said you were funny. Actions speak louder than words though, and you have proven that you are not funny at all, but merely ignorant and uninformed. You take yourself and the world around you far too seriously. As an LDS women, do you not have better things to do than to use the internet as a forum for your hate?
What if an investigator of the LDS Church visited your blog? And saw the hateful way that you address members of your own faith? If you judge members of your own faith so harshly, I cringe to think of how harshly you judge members of the many hundreds of other religions out there. Blogposts like this must make Satan grin, because this is exactly what he is hoping Latter-day saints will do: mock and ridicule one another.
How dare you define me or any other Mormons as “Jack Mormons” according to your own narrow-minded views?! Since when do you get to be the judge? Since when has any prophet told us we had to think a certain way in order to find favor in the sight of God? Oh, that's right, someone did say that, but I don't think it was a prophet. Oh, that's right, it was Satan again.
You said in your post that you cannot in the same breath claim your love for God, and also say that you and I can act however we want; that it doesn't work. It not only does work, but it is one of the most fundamental principles of the Gospel that you claim to believe in. Has anyone ever taught you about agency? “Wherefore, the Lord God gave unto man that he should act for himself.” Or: “Wherefore, men are free according to the flesh; and call things are dgiven them which are expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil.” God has not, and never will take away our ability to think, reason, and act for ourselves! And I'm pretty sure He did not appoint you judge (unless I missed the memo).
I appreciate your desire to stand for something, but perhaps you should do it in a more private forum until you become less ignorant. You mentioned that you are bothered by mockeries of your faith. So am I. And this post was perhaps the biggest mockery of my faith that I have read in a very long time.
Oh Laura. So sad to see you go when you are so nice to me.
Just in case you didn't catch the irony, you were just the first one to throw a big old stone of judgement at me.
In my defense, I never said that Jon Huntsman isn't a good person or that he won't make it heaven or that I even dislike him. (all favors that you didn't afford me)
I just stated the fact. The guy is a Jack Mormon. If he isn't willing to claim his religion then he is a Jack Mormon…does that make me love him any less? No.
I apologize for being harsh in my first post. I actually agree with your opinion about Jon Huntsman (not with the rationale behind it, but I agree nonetheless). He didn't earn my vote as governor and he hasn't earned my vote for president. Of the Republicans running for president, I think Romney has the greatest ability to do good.
I'm much more concerned with your attitude toward regular Mormons, the ones who think for themselves and may or may not have developed opinions outside of theMormon culture, particularly with what you said about gay marriage. If I believe that all people should have the right to marry in this life, does that make me a Jack Mormon? I don't think so, because I still feel like my standing with God is good, and I claim my religion 100%. (“Jack Mormon” isn't even a real phrase, it's something we Mormons invented to throw stones at each other). I believe that God condemns the act of homosexuality, but that is for Him to take care of in His own time. We as people should not condemn anyone, nor should we withhold rights from people simply because they believe differently.
alice w. gold 
Some good things occurred as a result of negative publicity in Memphis. Bob McBride (who is a very nice man) was given the opportunity to give the facts of our faith: http://faithinmemphis.com/2011/07/15/bob-mcbride-clarifying-mormon-beliefs/. -Jennifer
The definition of a jack Mormon has changed. It used to mean a non-Mormon supporter of the church. That was back in the beginning though.
Colbert is always funny. I like how he had to “fight” not falling into the church. He always cracks me up.
Anytime I read anti stuff, I have to laugh because of how ridiculous it all is. I am always amazed at how willing people are to bash us when they have absolutely no knowledge of what we believe.
Adam's congratulatory note is what linked me here. Loved this post. Well done, Alice! You are amazing at standing for truth. I admire you very much. Love your LDS profile too! Here is mine: http://mormon.org/me/3R9K/
I've lived in the south a long time now and most of the people here are good and kind Christian people. When I've answered questions or cleared up misconceptions about the church, they are often very Christlike and open minded even when they still don't agree. I've seen hearts soften simply by being a good friend and not being trigger happy. And seriously, the worst most militant anti-Mormons I've ever run into have ironically been in Utah, Salt Lake City/Sandy in fact, no where near the south.;) And you know, sometimes I laugh because we are kind of weird!
We're all Jack Mormons sometimes.
What about people who are not Mormons nor have any interest in your religion? How do they vote? Did you opt out of the last election over religion or *race*??! I appreciate people who have strong values, but these blog posts often border on bigotry.
I would gladly vote over any Christian politician (even the ones who call me not Christian) over Obama, and race has no consideration for me…sexual orientation, yes, not because I am a bigot, because if believing so makes me a bigot, it makes God a bigot too. If they are gay and say they are trying not be gay because they want to keep God's laws then they will have my vote double.
I agree with you Renee. A lot of great people in the South, including the ones who call me UnChristian. But I think someone like me who is pretty vocal about what I believe is in a position to receive more mockery than other Mormons who keep a low profile.
Because Jon Huntsman does not define his Mormonism according to the official Salt Lake City brand you shun him and call him names. Then you proceed to whine about persecution.
Do you ever read your own posts?
Anon,
I never read my own posts. Ever.
I don't persecute people for their beliefs unless their beliefs are different than my own.
No I don't persecute people for their beliefs unless they are wrong.
Scratch that. I don't persecute people for their beliefs, only when they say they believe but they really don't.
And yeah, you have to follow the Salt Lake definition of Mormonism just like you had to follow Moses to be in the House of Israel.
I won't be voting for Huntsman. Not because he is a flake in his own religion, but because I just don't think he has what it takes to lead the country in a direction I feel it needs to go. I didn't like him as governor either.
I do love your post. I love that you are gutsy enough to put it out there and that you have found the cowards named “Anonymous.” They are entertaining to me, anonymous, that is.
Please be more wise in your posts
Very sad
Just in case you didn't catch the satire I was kidding when I said that I only persecute people who don't believe like I do.
And, anonymous, thank you so much for your advice, I will try to be more wise. Heck, I am already trying. May not be succeeding according to you or my husband who says I was pretty harsh on Jon Huntsman.
And I am judgemental.
Thou shalt not judge Jack Mormons.
I will put it on my to-do list.
And my husband says that I used to be a Jack Mormon.
I say that's why he married me because he needed a little excitement in his life.
And your excitement gets stomped dead when you convert your Jack Mormon wife to your boring ways.
P.S. LG says his idea of excitement is not being called a perv or a freekazoid.
PPS I love you democrats.
Oh my heck… by your standards I am a jack mormon.
ToOdLeS.
But Sheila, unlike Jon Huntsman, you make jack mormons look good.
Love you to pieces, even if you are a jack mormon.
and like renee said we all are jack mormons a little bit.
And you have officially lost another reader due to your extreme ignorance. I gave your blog a month or so because it said you were funny. Actions speak louder than words though, and you have proven that you are not funny at all, but merely ignorant and uninformed. You take yourself and the world around you far too seriously. As an LDS women, do you not have better things to do than to use the internet as a forum for your hate?
What if an investigator of the LDS Church visited your blog? And saw the hateful way that you address members of your own faith? If you judge members of your own faith so harshly, I cringe to think of how harshly you judge members of the many hundreds of other religions out there. Blogposts like this must make Satan grin, because this is exactly what he is hoping Latter-day saints will do: mock and ridicule one another.
How dare you define me or any other Mormons as “Jack Mormons” according to your own narrow-minded views?! Since when do you get to be the judge? Since when has any prophet told us we had to think a certain way in order to find favor in the sight of God? Oh, that's right, someone did say that, but I don't think it was a prophet. Oh, that's right, it was Satan again.
You said in your post that you cannot in the same breath claim your love for God, and also say that you and I can act however we want; that it doesn't work. It not only does work, but it is one of the most fundamental principles of the Gospel that you claim to believe in. Has anyone ever taught you about agency? “Wherefore, the Lord God gave unto man that he should act for himself.” Or: “Wherefore, men are free according to the flesh; and call things are dgiven them which are expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil.” God has not, and never will take away our ability to think, reason, and act for ourselves! And I'm pretty sure He did not appoint you judge (unless I missed the memo).
I appreciate your desire to stand for something, but perhaps you should do it in a more private forum until you become less ignorant. You mentioned that you are bothered by mockeries of your faith. So am I. And this post was perhaps the biggest mockery of my faith that I have read in a very long time.
Oh Laura. So sad to see you go when you are so nice to me.
Just in case you didn't catch the irony, you were just the first one to throw a big old stone of judgement at me.
In my defense, I never said that Jon Huntsman isn't a good person or that he won't make it heaven or that I even dislike him. (all favors that you didn't afford me)
I just stated the fact. The guy is a Jack Mormon. If he isn't willing to claim his religion then he is a Jack Mormon…does that make me love him any less? No.
I apologize for being harsh in my first post. I actually agree with your opinion about Jon Huntsman (not with the rationale behind it, but I agree nonetheless). He didn't earn my vote as governor and he hasn't earned my vote for president. Of the Republicans running for president, I think Romney has the greatest ability to do good.
I'm much more concerned with your attitude toward regular Mormons, the ones who think for themselves and may or may not have developed opinions outside of theMormon culture, particularly with what you said about gay marriage. If I believe that all people should have the right to marry in this life, does that make me a Jack Mormon? I don't think so, because I still feel like my standing with God is good, and I claim my religion 100%. (“Jack Mormon” isn't even a real phrase, it's something we Mormons invented to throw stones at each other). I believe that God condemns the act of homosexuality, but that is for Him to take care of in His own time. We as people should not condemn anyone, nor should we withhold rights from people simply because they believe differently.
Go get em sis. Love the post.